Stephen: Yeah, the same with "Bully," in
an entirely different realm of cinema. And
one of the most promising things about
"Shaker" is its star, Shia he has
talent. Having seen the film itself, would
you agree? I saw "Holes" earlier this year
and really, really enjoyed it. Although it
wasn't just him pulling the weight he
played a big part in the film's artistic
value.Lee: I haven't read Shaker's
script, but have a feeling that it isn't
that great. It feels like some of the
actors make it happen especially Shia.
There are a few scenes in there that I
probably wouldn't have been amused by if
it was anyone else but him hes got a
presence. Yeah I need to see Holes. I
avoided it in theaters due to the trailer,
but have been told it's good. But we all
know I've disagreed with people before
with Bend it like Beckham, Italian Job,
and a few others.
Stephen: I didn't read "Shaker" in its
entirety, but from what I read it was
good, but far from great. What makes it
work, though, is that there's a lot of
room for actors to put their stamp on the
work not confined by overly defined
characters. Well, I tried to tell you to
see "Holes" but you just wouldn't
listen... Then again, I still get heat
from you over my recommendations of "Bend
it Like Beckham" and "Italian Job."
Lee: And Seabiscuit...
Stephen: Well, I didn't really
recommend that to you... I actually saw it
after you. Plus, I don't know if I'd
recommend it "Seabiscuit" is kind of
sticky, looking back on it. Anyway, our
personal disagreements aside, which season
of "Project Greenlight" do you think was
more effective and fun to watch?
Lee: Season 2 easily it was more
honest and open to everything that takes
place.
Stephen: I totally agree was more
honest about its players, more fun to
watch (the drama wasn't so in your face,
too) and really just had a smoother flow
to it. As with everything, the first step
is always the hardest and most awkward to
take, and so the second season of PGL
seems to have overcome that awkwardness
and delivered a better show and hopefully,
a better movie. I can almost guarantee
that I'd like "Shaker" on the grounds of
what I've seen of the film thus far. I'm
not sure what to expect from Project
Greenlight's next season -- IF there is
one. I'm really scared at how "Shaker
Heights" will do at the box office,
because for the most part, it determines
the fate of PGL in the future.
Lee: It's already done a lot better
than Stolen Summer, sales wise.
Stephen: Early signs look good, but you
never know. I understand that, but they
need at least $5 million overall.
Lee: People clapped at the end of my
show that didn't happen at Stolen
Summer.
Stephen: Actually, you're the expert,
how much do you think Miramax wants out of
"Shaker" in order to greenlight a season
three?
Lee: God, I don't know. If you can flop
with Stolen Summer and still get Miramax
to fund you again, I'd think that getting
another season may not be all that hard.
It may take negotiating, but it seems like
they're getting their act together,
strategically. With season 1, they
evidently were experimenting and didn't
exactly know what worked and what didn't.
This time they were more with it.
Stephen: I was actually thinking about
this last night, watching a repeat of last
week's episode of PGL... Miramax, along
with other companies gives PGL $1 million
to make a movie. Really, if you think
about it, HBO spends and makes more than
$1 million on their other shows overall.
Even if the movie isn't *that* big of a
hit, the show probably makes up for it big
time. I'm not sure about its ratings, but
I have read it's doing better than season
one in that field.
Lee: Yeah.
Stephen: I think if "The Battle of
Shaker Heights" takes in at least $4 - 6
million at the box office in its run,
Miramax will be glad to renew PGL. You
can't tell me they didn't make back $1
million from just the show already.
Assuming that a third season is lit, how
do you think things should change (or
stay) to improve on season two?
Lee: Even though it can be more fun
with drama, seeing when the crew doesn't
screw up might be nice.
Stephen: Yeah, I guess.
Lee: Like when Efram and Kyle were
actually screwing around near the end of
the season, it added more of a comedic
spin.
Stephen: PGL this season was never just
about the drama though, I didn't think. It
wasn't as laugh out loud funny as the
first season's screw-ups, but still.
Lee: Well, season 2 pretty much
answered a lot of my complaints from
season 1 they fixed stuff I had a
problem with; I'm not sure what they can
improve on next time.
Stephen: You know what I'd like to see
change? A different kind of movie! The
first season's film is a drama with some
comedy, and the second season's film is a
comedy with some drama -- both
coming-of-age stories.
Lee: I'm still waiting for a winner to
want Affleck and Damon in the movie.
Stephen: Haha. In a way, I was rooting
for "Prisoner" to be chosen as the script
this year, which was a good script...or
"Cheeks," even though the writing wasn't
as strong.
Lee: Which one was Cheeks?
Stephen: I thought it would be
interesting for them to do something a tad
darker or more out of the box. Cheeks was
the mob-type story set at a strip club,
but as the writers soon advised, "It's not
just about strippers."
Lee: Yeah I remember Affleck commenting
that if it won, it would obviously cast a
little questionable argument among the
other screenwriters.
Stephen: I think Cheeks would have been
a more free-spirited kind of thing, and
maybe too raunchy for its own (and the
show's own) good. "Prisoner" with Otting
directing would have been a pretty
interesting project featured on PGL
theyre actually going ahead with it as a
separate film with Chris Moore producing.
Lee: You sort of wonder why more
talents don't do projects like this
Project Greenlight-wise.
Stephen: Yeah, I know. Then again,
there are enough rip-offs of other things,
and a rip off of PGL would just be wrong.
I love this show I really, really do.