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Weekend Box Office Project Greenlight 2 Chat
by Lee Tistaert
and Stephen Lucas

Lee: I think part of the reason Shaker Heights was greenlit was because it could go after one of the largest moviegoing audiences on the planet – young demographics. Regarding Stolen Summer, as much as Stand by Me starred kids, its audience wasn't really kids. I know you haven’t seen Stand by Me.

Stephen: Yeah, the same with "Bully," in an entirely different realm of cinema. And one of the most promising things about "Shaker" is its star, Shia – he has talent. Having seen the film itself, would you agree? I saw "Holes" earlier this year and really, really enjoyed it. Although it wasn't just him pulling the weight – he played a big part in the film's artistic value.

Lee: I haven't read Shaker's script, but have a feeling that it isn't that great. It feels like some of the actors make it happen – especially Shia. There are a few scenes in there that I probably wouldn't have been amused by if it was anyone else but him – he’s got a presence. Yeah I need to see Holes. I avoided it in theaters due to the trailer, but have been told it's good. But we all know I've disagreed with people before – with Bend it like Beckham, Italian Job, and a few others.

Stephen: I didn't read "Shaker" in its entirety, but from what I read it was good, but far from great. What makes it work, though, is that there's a lot of room for actors to put their stamp on the work – not confined by overly defined characters. Well, I tried to tell you to see "Holes" but you just wouldn't listen... Then again, I still get heat from you over my recommendations of "Bend it Like Beckham" and "Italian Job."

Lee: And Seabiscuit...

Stephen: Well, I didn't really recommend that to you... I actually saw it after you. Plus, I don't know if I'd recommend it – "Seabiscuit" is kind of sticky, looking back on it. Anyway, our personal disagreements aside, which season of "Project Greenlight" do you think was more effective and fun to watch?

Lee: Season 2 easily – it was more honest and open to everything that takes place.

Stephen: I totally agree – was more honest about its players, more fun to watch (the drama wasn't so in your face, too) and really just had a smoother flow to it. As with everything, the first step is always the hardest and most awkward to take, and so the second season of PGL seems to have overcome that awkwardness and delivered a better show and hopefully, a better movie. I can almost guarantee that I'd like "Shaker" on the grounds of what I've seen of the film thus far. I'm not sure what to expect from Project Greenlight's next season -- IF there is one. I'm really scared at how "Shaker Heights" will do at the box office, because for the most part, it determines the fate of PGL in the future.

Lee: It's already done a lot better than Stolen Summer, sales wise.

Stephen: Early signs look good, but you never know. I understand that, but they need at least $5 million overall.

Lee: People clapped at the end of my show – that didn't happen at Stolen Summer.

Stephen: Actually, you're the expert, how much do you think Miramax wants out of "Shaker" in order to greenlight a season three?

Lee: God, I don't know. If you can flop with Stolen Summer and still get Miramax to fund you again, I'd think that getting another season may not be all that hard. It may take negotiating, but it seems like they're getting their act together, strategically. With season 1, they evidently were experimenting and didn't exactly know what worked and what didn't. This time they were more with it.

Stephen: I was actually thinking about this last night, watching a repeat of last week's episode of PGL... Miramax, along with other companies gives PGL $1 million to make a movie. Really, if you think about it, HBO spends and makes more than $1 million on their other shows overall. Even if the movie isn't *that* big of a hit, the show probably makes up for it big time. I'm not sure about its ratings, but I have read it's doing better than season one in that field.

Lee: Yeah.

Stephen: I think if "The Battle of Shaker Heights" takes in at least $4 - 6 million at the box office in its run, Miramax will be glad to renew PGL. You can't tell me they didn't make back $1 million from just the show already. Assuming that a third season is lit, how do you think things should change (or stay) to improve on season two?

Lee: Even though it can be more fun with drama, seeing when the crew doesn't screw up might be nice.

Stephen: Yeah, I guess.

Lee: Like when Efram and Kyle were actually screwing around near the end of the season, it added more of a comedic spin.

Stephen: PGL this season was never just about the drama though, I didn't think. It wasn't as laugh out loud funny as the first season's screw-ups, but still.

Lee: Well, season 2 pretty much answered a lot of my complaints from season 1 – they fixed stuff I had a problem with; I'm not sure what they can improve on next time.

Stephen: You know what I'd like to see change? A different kind of movie! The first season's film is a drama with some comedy, and the second season's film is a comedy with some drama -- both coming-of-age stories.

Lee: I'm still waiting for a winner to want Affleck and Damon in the movie.

Stephen: Haha. In a way, I was rooting for "Prisoner" to be chosen as the script this year, which was a good script...or "Cheeks," even though the writing wasn't as strong.

Lee: Which one was Cheeks?

Stephen: I thought it would be interesting for them to do something a tad darker or more out of the box. Cheeks was the mob-type story set at a strip club, but as the writers soon advised, "It's not just about strippers."

Lee: Yeah I remember Affleck commenting that if it won, it would obviously cast a little questionable argument among the other screenwriters.

Stephen: I think Cheeks would have been a more free-spirited kind of thing, and maybe too raunchy for its own (and the show's own) good. "Prisoner" with Otting directing would have been a pretty interesting project featured on PGL – they’re actually going ahead with it as a separate film with Chris Moore producing.

Lee: You sort of wonder why more talents don't do projects like this – Project Greenlight-wise.

Stephen: Yeah, I know. Then again, there are enough rip-offs of other things, and a rip off of PGL would just be wrong. I love this show – I really, really do.


Shaker Heights Total US Box Office: $0.279000 million

Stephen's Review: Rather predictable and it borders on mediocrity oftentimes, but for the most part, LaBoeuf kept me interested. [ C+ ]
Lee's Review: Shaker Heights is not a must-see, nor is it solid entertainment, but it does just enough to get by on a reasonable recommendation. [ B- ]
Visitor Rating Average: B (12 votes)
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