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by
Lee Tistaert
white_chocolate2003
writes:
Here is some more evidence that could
link to the belief that Bo is an alien.
Isn't it funny that it was her baby
monitor that was able to communicate
with the aliens and that it turned on by
itself? Also, if you see it again, when
the son goes on the car roof and points
the monitor to the sky he gets nothing.
Then Merrill is holding him and Graham
is lifting Bo up to the roof. Right when
Bo touches Merrill, that's when the
voices were heard between the two
aliens. Was it the connection from Bo to
Merrill to the son that the aliens were
able to communicate??
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Lee Tistaert's
response:
Damn! Is about all I have to say. I've
now seen Signs a total of three times
and I never caught anything like that
(of what 'white_chocolate' noted). These
posts are getting killer by the second.
Looks like I may need a 4th viewing
(wow). You practically need to go in
with a notebook so you don't forget what
to look for (not that I will...).
Actually, a good question to ask in
regard to Bo's baby monitor is: did it
have any batteries in it? Because I have
no clue.
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GSnrub adds:
A simple
tiny analysis with our own (non space
faring) technology can decipher what
lies in our atmosphere (there's water in
the air and the soil I'm sure).
Ultimately, I guess my argument-ending
point is, what did they think clouds
were?
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Lee Tistaert's
response:
Adding to 'GSnrub',
with the aliens obviously using the crop
fields as their hideout, wouldn't they
be walking on at least somewhat wet soil
of some sort in the process of their
running about (or be touching up against
wet crops at some point)? Also, my guess
is that the night would allow the
environment to get very damp...however,
these are one of the only possible flaws
I've managed to come up with.
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Lee Tistaert's
writes:
**(SIXTH SENSE
SPOILERS)**
Some are
criticizing the film's weakness in that
water is in more places than even the
secrets suggests as mentioned in the
past few posts. However, we have to
realize that 6th Sense, as however
classic the twist was, had its flaws.
Malcolm would've likely realized he was
dead real early on if he had slept in
the bed with his wife, yet we never ever
seem to see where he sleeps. Also, the
first time he meets with Cole in the
house, it appears like Malcolm and the
mother had been chatting away but if you
knew the logics, they weren't. If you
asked questions about it, there's no
logical reason that would've had Malcolm
in there. If he thought he was alive,
he'd come in through the front door but
the mother wouldn't have seen him.
So Signs
may have its flaws dealing with water
and the moist or whatnot, but that
didn't stop Sixth Sense from being a
phenomenon in both box office terms and
moviegoers' minds.
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Lee Tistaert's
writes:
A good
point has come up that could clear up
these moist & misc. water flaws. In
Signs, the alien at the climax is killed
off by the water in the glasses around
the house. But if you think about it, Bo
had touched these glasses previously and
claimed they were contaminated. Being a
(presumed) angel, she could've converted
the substance to holy water, and
therefore, have it be deadly against the
aliens. Or possibly, the water was
purely straight out contaminated and the
critters are killed off by that much.
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floydandphish
writes:
Sorry if I offend anyone, but I really
didn't think very much of "Signs." I
just couldn't suspend my disbelief far
enough to appreciate this film, which I
don't think is worth very much
discussion.
By the end of the picture I felt like I
had seen a poorly written episode of The
X-Files with similar production values
(after seeing that shameful excuse for
an alien) and solid acting.
Series of questions:
1) Our air is full of moisture, yet it
didn't affect the beings?
2) At all the locations where crop
circles were created across the world,
it never rained once within the few days
the aliens were probing? Not even a
drizzle?
3) No alien ever stepped into the wet
dew on the grass in the morning?
4) Were these beings intelligent or
thick-headed mules...all they had going
for defense was some poisonous gas?
5)
A kitchen knife is strong enough to
sever a few digits and a baseball bat is
powerful enough to greatly injure these
creatures, yet I am sure a firearm would
not penetrate their body and an alien
full of bullet holes would survive as
only water can harm these beings???
I especially enjoyed how the alien in
the household takes the beating without
ever truly trying to attack Merrill.
Moreover, the poor excuse for a twist at
the end (which I found very similar to
the conclusion of The Mothman
Prophecies...another film I did not
enjoy) also hurt my opinion on the film.
Secrets and symbolism...what the hell???
This film so blatantly and redundantly
reveals anything that could be a symbol
and then beats it to death...much like
Merrill killing that alien. If I want to
discuss a film, I would like to discuss
one that couldn't easily be interpreted
by the likes of a four year old boy.
I also enjoyed the child prodigy in
family who spoke with a better
vocabulary than 95% of adults I have met
in my life and showed more intelligence
than both the father and the brother
combined...how the hell old was that kid
anyway??? Twelve or
something...actually, he was probably
ten.
Also, I felt the film moved too slowly
at times. I did believe the film
displayed good suspense at times and was
well shot for the most part.
Well, just my opinion...5/10
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white_chocolate2003
writes:
One more hinting that puzzles me. Now,
maybe I was seeing things but wasn't
Shyamalan wearing the same shirt in the
car at his house that he was wearing the
night of him killing Graham's wife? I am
about 90% sure it is and I would love
for someone to verify this. If it is
true, what does it mean?
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Mr.Glass
writes:
Bo and her mother are not aliens. That
just doesn't make sense. However, I
would contend that Bo is angel-like and
has some paranormal capability since
she's able to see her brother's
death. Frankly, I think the water that
hurts the alien (which was always
touched by Bo first) was contaminated by
Bo. In essence, she's blessing or
purifying the water to drive the aliens
(or demons) away. I think the people in
the Middle East beat back the aliens not
by water (since it IS a desert), but by
just fighting back in hand-to-hand
combat. Fear works in the aliens' favor
and if a person's not afraid (like Ray
Reddy wasn't), he can beat the alien
like Ray Reddy did.
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trevorvos
writes:
Are we sure that it is the water itself
that hurt the alien? Perhaps it is
something in the water, since Bo WAS
complaining about it being
contaminated. Or a more "out there"
idea: perhaps the water was made deadly
to the alien by Bo having contact with
it. All the water glasses were ones that
Bo had drank half of. The more I think
about it, the more it seems Bo is the
center of it all.
The reports saying that some had found a
primitive way of defeating the aliens
could have been talking about something
totally different. Like spitting on them
or something. Maybe it was Bo's backwash
that killed it.
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Lee Tistaert
writes:
Not exactly a secret or meaning, but
just a thought that came up. Since
Friday, I've talked with people (or
overheard) who found Signs to be scary,
suspenseful, funny and frightening (or
even funnier than it is scary) etc, but
despite my original advice to see Signs
with a large audience, I have a theory
in mind that could prove to contradict
those words of wisdom.When
you're with a large audience, the movie
may not appear as scary because you
never know what may happen in the
theater with out-loud remarks, comments,
or vocal reactions that may take away
from the horror of the situation.
If you're one of few people in the
theater, you may realize the real horror
of the situation because there's no one
in there to create the comfortable
feeling of "I'm not alone".
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zapgirl11
writes:
The part of the movie where Graham is
talking to the guy who killed his wife.
The guy says that he thinks that the
aliens don't like water - that's why he
was going to the lake. Now, how could he
have possibly known about the water? If
he had, wouldn't he have killed the
alien in his pantry instead of just
leaving it there?
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Lee Tistaert's
response:
Well, we know that the guy (Shyamalan)
had been injured and we pretty much
speculate that there was some sort of an
attack, and Shyamalan's character got
out relatively safely, but hurt. He may
not have had time to think about
attacking the alien, but more so, just
trying to get out. I truly believe that
in some situations, your mind won't be
thinking as clearly as usual in heated
scenarios, so Shyamalan's goal may have
just been to get the hell out of there
and leave it locked in. He may not have
thought about attacking the critter
because he was too frightened at the
time, as most of us would be.
If you think about it, Shyamalan may not
have known that water was what killed
them (how would he know?), but he had a
hunch that that was what had them avoid
you (given the locations of the crop
signs). Adding to that, even if his
character had surrounded himself in
glasses of water around his house when
the alien had invaded his home, there'd
be no definite answer to whether the
critters would recognize the substance
as it is not clearly water to them. When
they're looking for water, they're
probably gazing out for large groups of
it (ponds, lakes, rivers etc) and may
not recognize a glass of water as
dangerous until it was dropped upon
them. Shyamalan likely figures that if
he barricades himself around a large
quantity of the substance, he'd be safe
(why he heads for the lake).
Then again, at the end it is subtly
hinted that it isn't purely water that
harms them, but water that was marked by
Bo herself. So even if Shyamalan had
taken the device into consideration,
there's no way of knowing whether it
would have worked or not. From what we
gather from the conclusion, Bo is the
only doorway to defeating the
antagonists in that dilemma. Some people
might ask why they don't just pick up a
shotgun and go trigger happy. Who says
the Hess family has weapons of such?
Plus, is it probable reasoning to
include that when you're frightened you
are not thinking straight? They're main
focus could have been getting to safety
to the point where grabbing on Uzi just
didn't come to mind.
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st2cool writes:
Okay, I really think people are just
putting too much thought into this film.
All these theories are interesting, but
this was not what Shyamalan intended for
us to perceive. He spelled it out at the
end exactly what he was trying to show.
Just face the facts. There is no twist,
there are no secret meanings. Just look
at the film for what it is and nothing
more.
Signs Secrets Continued >>
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