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by
Lee Tistaert
DJ2000SRAIF writes:
Just read your review on the new Mel
Gibson movie, "Signs". I saw the film
about a month ago and I have to say I
was very disappointed after hearing
about all the hype!! I thought the
film started off okay; bit scary (kinda).
But towards the end of the film, the
interest just deteriorated. I found
the ending very disappointing and
wouldn't advise anyone to waste there
time watching it!! Absolute pants!!
(what a waste of money).
But the worst thing about this film is
what the reviewers are writing,
including yourselves. You're saying
that you would go watch it again??
That's unbelievable!! Or maybe you're
just saying it for business purposes,
which is not good for the public!!
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Lee Tistaert writes:
Some people here and there as of
recently have been asking me how I
could give this film such a rating as
I did. Some speculate that I'm
receiving benefits for saying all the
rave comments I gave, but that is not
true. You have to realize that I saw
the film late April - a time when hype
outside of the first two teaser
trailers wasn't really present. More
so, the hype that individuals had
built for themselves. This being said,
I walked into Signs with my own hype.
Meaning, no movie critics to imprint
comments into my head in persuasion or
anything.
I was going off the fact that it was
Shyamalan taking on a very peculiar
subject. And at the time of seeing
Signs, I wasn't all that sure about
what the movie was about given that
the first two teasers had said very
little. This allowed for the
experience of seeing the movie to be
quite genuine, as I did not have the
knowledge (for the most part)
moviegoers had walking in on August 2.
As time grew toward opening day, a
large group of filmgoers understood
that this was an alien invasion
thriller/horror film. When the
audience I was part of walked into the
screening, we didn't have that
awareness because at that time there
was no solid buzz on the specifics
surrounding Signs.
So watching the film unfold, part of
my crowd's journey involved figuring
out what the storyline really was. By
late July, magazines and whatnot had
given a relatively clear picture as to
what moviegoers would be watching; a
creepy alien invasion dealing with
crop circles. Having knowing what the
movie is about takes away from the
experience, as you already have that
factor figured out going in; I didn't.
As I exited my August 2 show, I had
questioned my quote of Signs being a
nearly masterpiece in the genre of
mystery and suspense, as really, isn't
it a thriller/horror film? So
theoretically, shouldn't I have said
it was one of the scariest films I've
seen or to some extent?
It later donned on me that at the time
of the original April showing,
watching Signs was more of a
mystery/suspense adventure as we
didn't have any real idea what was
happening. By opening day, every media
outlet had pretty clearly mapped out
what Signs was all about to a certain
degree. Not understanding the basics
of Signs (plotline) creates the
suspense, as you don't have any info
regarding the details which has your
viewing become more of a unique
experience. In my situation, you were
trying to logically examine what you
were given and figure out where it was
headed with its story. Part of that
journey had been answered within its
buzz that crawled up closer to its
debut, which again, downgrades the
overall mystery feel and once again -
something that hadn't happened at my
show.
Seeing Signs was
a truly remarkable experience, as my
hype surrounding the film was
sky-high, yet it was probably the fact
that I knew really nothing about what
it was in detail that drove my liking
the film at the top of the chart. The
down factor for many moviegoers and
the basic factor of "hype" is that
once you read the reviews and magazine
articles etc, you already knew more
than what I did walking in. I didn't
have the knowledge that Signs was
going to be downright scary, as there
was nothing obvious that pointed
toward that even with the teaser
trailers. Once you grow knowledge of
others' opinions on the film, it's
extremely easy for those to be
cemented into your mind as you watch
Signs on the big-screen, evaluating
whether or not you agree or disagree.
I simply walked into the theater with
my own hype given the situation I had,
which as corny as it sounds, I see as
a payback for myself having walked
into The Sixth Sense with the twist
revealed to myself the day of my show
by someone who thought the idea to
spoil was hilarious.
Even returning
to Signs for my second viewing (first
one after the preview screening)
opening weekend, I was glued to the
screen. And really, I later speculated
whether or not it was just me trying
to see what was still there (in terms
of scenes) and whatnot, and think that
it was the basic element of its
storytelling and various issues I did
not notice the first time that
catapulted my liking of Signs even
more than I did originally. Walking
out of the second screening, I
realized that I originally had part of
the ending to Signs wrong and that
wasn't due to changes in production,
but simply, not putting the pieces
together properly. And while I
recognized the second time that it
wasn't very hard to put together those
pieces, I believe it was the sole idea
that first time of seeing it with very
vague info, your mind was racing with
ideas the entire time, allowing
yourself to miss certain factors
because your brain, eyes and ears can
only pick up so much in one sitting.
And adding to that, going back to my
original point - at the time of seeing
Signs, my audience had barely any
education to the details behind the M.
Night Shyamalan film. So in a way, we
were trying to see what the roots of
the story were at the same time as
analyzing every detail when audiences
across America knew part of that
opening day.
So when you
wonder how I could enjoy a film like
Signs so much when others are claiming
it is a standard alien invasion movie
with a simple theme, some movies can
be drastically different experiences
when you walk in blind.
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halliemarie writes:
I totally agree with you, moviefreak -
great movie. Great insight on the
vegetation! I didn't notice that in
either of the times I saw the film.
But I do think all this speculation
about the family members being aliens
is kind of stupid. That's an obvious
twist to expect, but the great thing
is that Shyamalan doesn't use it. What
makes you think that the aliens can
even disguise themselves as humans
when we saw how unlike us they looked?
I know they can change their colors,
but they still couldn't do it.
Oh, and about the color changing, some
people could get confused about this.
But at the end, when you kept seeing
the family's faces appear all over the
alien's body (as he held Morgan), he
wasn't reading their minds, but he was
camouflaging himself w/ his
surroundings (which happened to be the
family standing by) Okay, just wanted
to clear that up, as my brother got
confused by that.
I especially loved the part where the
aliens have been defeated (Bo -
"they're doing this on tv" *dancing*),
but then we see that jolting
reflection on the dead tv screen. That
scared me so badly and set up that
perfect climax. I also loved how the
entire movie made you feel like it was
all really happening to you. I was
truly shocked and afraid when they
showed the Brazilian video on tv.
The Bo/angel thing is reasonable, but
that's not what I thought. If you'll
remember, the television reporter said
they found a "PRIMITIVE" way to defeat
the aliens; meaning, he was probably
talking about the water so it's not
necessarily Bo's water that's special.
But the fact that she had that thing
about her drinking water was just
there, in my opinion, to show that it
was no coincidence how things happened
- that there was a reason for
everything. We shouldn't over-analyze
it.
Okay, to answer some questions: Morgan
was not just saying improbably smart
things - he was quoting his book;
about the animals - the reason they
did weird things was just because they
were spooked - they say the animals
are always the first to know. What was
happening outside the Hess home? Who
cares? The movie's centered around one
family's struggle through these
events, so why do we need to cut to
the military nuking a bunch of
spaceships? Okay, well, that's all I
wanted to say I think. It was a sweet,
sad, funny, scary and highly original
movie; I'm gonna see it again soon. I'd be happy if
you could post any kind of feedback
you may have.
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jhollin1138 writes:
Okay, let me get in some things in
here.
Graham's wife was a human, plain and
simple. The fact that she told him to
tell Merrill to "swing away" doesn't
make her an alien. She was sending
well thoughts to the people close to
her. "Tell Bo to listen to her
brother." The significance of Graham
remembering it at that moment just
gave him the idea. He realized that
the alien was probably going to try
and kill his son; better to go down
fighting than doing nothing at all.
Besides, even if she were an alien,
how would she know the future and that
Merrill should "swing away" on the
alien?
Graham told both his children about
their births to quite their fears.
Since he was a Reverend, he would be
able to recognize what needed to be
said and when to say it. He was just
being a good dad and not telling Bo
she was an angel.
This water thing is another subject
all together. Shyamalan's character
stated himself that he was heading to
the lake because he thinks they don't
like water. He based this on the fact
that every place they were showing up
at didn't have a large water source
around it (the twenty or so circles in
India for example). Since I am talking
about Shyamalan's character now, he
also said that he found an alien
hiding in his house (a little thing
called dew, you know). Maybe it was
hiding in the pantry already when he
barricaded the door. We all assume he
was hurt by the alien because of what
looked to be blood on the outside and
bottom of his coat. But maybe it
wasn't blood; it might have been some
part of his lunch he was making. He
was cutting vegetables on the table
and opened his pantry to find an alien
hiding in there. He slammed the door
closed and flipped the table up
against it. His half fixed lunch
falling from his table onto his coat,
leaving a red blood looking stain
(strawberry jam perhaps). One more
thing about Shamalan's character is
that his roles in his movies are
getting bigger and more important, and
he will probably be in the led role in
his next film. :-)
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Lee Tistaert writes:
Ever since seeing Signs, I had always
been wondering about the group of
vegetables sitting beside the knife in
that scene and
"jhollin1138" just made me think up a
possible connection. Originally, I
figured it was purely Shyamalan's
symbolism inserted in, as some of the
vegetables shown (as like many objects
throughout the movie) are UFO-shaped
to possibly represent that the
characters are all surrounded by UFO's
(aliens).
But now looking into it, it seems like
a probable assumption could be that
Shyamalan's character was cutting them
with the knife, and being that Morgan
stated that the critters eat
vegetables and whatnot, the alien
could have smelled it having been
nearby or in the house and tried to
get them. Whether or not there was an
actual attack is a longing mystery,
but the clues are all there (Shyamalan
appeared hurt and his damaged voice
aided that thought). If the critter
had tried to snatch the vegetables,
Night could have put up a fight to
some extent, got injured and locked
the thing up in the pantry as his best
shot at survival. Whether or not the
extra terrestrials are evil or good
seems to be a continuing debate and
while I had my bunch of theories weeks
back, it's still an interesting
subject.
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kcm25 writes:
Wow, how did you people figure that
Signs would be back on top of the box
office? What's your secret?
As for speculation to whether the
aliens were bad/hostile. Well, doesn't
the fact that "many people died" and
"families were gassed to death and
seen being dragged out of their homes"
usually mean that aliens aren't here
for our benefits but for their own?
And thus, they were hostile, or at
least by our definition of personal
survival.
But isn't that moot point? I thought
the point of the story is the struggle
for faith in face of great unknowns.
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gbass37280 writes:
OK OK, I got it. Morgan says the
aliens only eat vegetables - M. Night
Shyamalan is Indian. Indians are
vegetarians, thus making all aliens
Indian in origin. After all the crop
circle phenomenon boomed in and around
India. Wrap your minds around that one
kids.
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scepticalpigeon writes:
Where do you draw the line? If you are
looking for something, you can find it
in any scene of the any movie. Then
what's the point of making movies,
anyway? One could produce random
series of images and might claim any
plot he wanted. Technically speaking,
I think MNS is a good director.
However, this search of endless
"signs" in every frame of the movie is
going a bit too far. I still don't
have a good answer - what was the
reason for the illogical alien content
of the story? Maybe this was a child's
dream, or the aliens (why?) were just
symbolical tools as some people
suggest. But such symbols do not have
to be illogical even when they
represent the most obscure idea. In
fact, the logic behind them is their
real strength (to me at least). So,
there is something strange about this
movie which does not quite fit the
presented storyline; that something
was probably made intentionally (if
not the movie is in serious trouble).
Can this movie be a psychological test
for some purpose? I don't like this
idea, so we better watch the skies. :)
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sandeepnagra writes:
Hello, I can't believe you are stupid
enough to create a story to explain
the plot for the director. This story
is an overnight creation with very
little devoted hours to finish the
deadline. It doesn't even worth five
cents & so please don't confuse people
further by trying to give an
interpretation, which made the movie
even worse than it is.
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sandeepnagra writes:
Significance of the broken window...
The movie opens
with a look through a window at the
world. We see reality, but we don't.
There are subtle modulations in the
image through the imperfections in the
glass, convincing us that what we are
seeing, it turns out to be a man's
view out the window toward the swing
set where his children play, is
occluded somehow.
At the movie's end, the image of the
view through the window is repeated
exactly. Except that by now that
window, with its distortions, has been
shattered and what we see is what
"Signs" maintains is the truth. We
see, then, the journey of the movie:
from a man's unclear view of the
universe to his clear view of it. And
in Shyamalan's view, that's a journey
toward faith in God.
What do you think?
An excellent link:
http://www.rottentomatoes.com/forum...
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ghr writes:
If the aliens hate water, why did
their spaceships hide inside those wet
clouds (it was going to rain - the
clouds were gray) in that "bird"
scene?
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danielgomes writes:
Bo, morganīs sister, hates water.
Like an alien daughter.
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pmatta writes:
I know this is kind of late to be
saying this, but I hated at the end
before Mel had the flashback to his
wife's death. They are all just
standing around! It's like, HELLO?
Morgan's like dying. Maybe you should
get off your lazy butt and do
something about it! I know if someone
in my family was dying right before my
eyes, I'd do something and not just
stand there! Plus, I just want to say
how hot Rory Culkin {Morgan} is! Does
anybody else think this?
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gymnastgrl4 writes:
I know this is kind of late to be
saying this, but I hated at the end
before Mel had the flashback to his
wife's death. They are all just
standing around! It's like, HELLO?
Morgan's like dying. Maybe you should
get off your lazy butt and do
something about it! I know if someone
in my family was dying right before my
eyes, I'd do something and not just
stand there! Plus, I just want to say
how hot Rory Culkin {Morgan} is! Does
anybody else think this?
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booda writes:
Well the DVD comes out the 7th. MNS is
supposed to have a commentary or
whatever.
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laurelh writes:
Are you the kind who believes
everything happens for a purpose, or
that it happens out of blind luck? I
think there is much implied in
"Signs," but it all comes back to that
question. All the odd events can be
viewed from either perspective. The
story does tie together well, making
details about alien climate tolerance
irrelevant. If Graham's wife had not
been killed, he would not have heard
the words from her lips that would
later save lives. If Bo did not have
her aversion to water, full glasses
would not have been placed in "just
the right places" -- or at places that
turned out to be useful out of blind
luck.
This theme seems to be the entire
movie, but it should not be viewed as
a "simple plot." This theme is
apparent as depths of layers within
layers. Are dreams (Bo) just
happenstance? Do they sometimes mean
more? Can we get warnings from a
picture in a book if we are watching
for "signs," aware of an
interconnectedness of everything
around us? Or are we simply at the
mercy of a random universe onto which
we impose our own meanings?
Watch it with whichever of the two
points of view, switch back and forth
between them. It is a very rich movie
and I believe the theme ("Which type
of person are you?") constantly
restated by the layered connected
events (Apparently I do have a bias
here -- hm) is the answer. The answer
to the film is the question. It has
succeeded marvelously.
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sammyfleury writes:
I don't think the aliens were averse
to water at all. Nowhere in the film
do they come out and say that water is
what was used against them. Perhaps
the water that burned the alien was
different somehow?
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aaronkauffman writes:
Just thought I'd mention that there
seems to be an importance in the color
purple in this film. Not sure why.
Also, in homage to the great Alfred
Hitchcock, there is a lot of symmetry
in some of the still or zoom shots.
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princessd82 writes:
What was with the cut out stars and
moons on the tree house roof and
backdoor (when the basement stairs are
shown)? Were they made by the aliens
as a sign, or where they there for
another reason?
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dmsayles writes:
My wife and I saw the DVD of Signs
last night, and it freaked us both
out. Good thriller as far as I'm
concerned, and it made me look around
the room when any noise or creak
reared its head.
As for the meaning of the movie, as a
Christian I found it very easy to
understand (in my humble opinion). The
aliens were not important to the
message whatsoever, as they are merely
a vehicle to relay the message. Graham
is lost. He has turned his back on
God, and God never accepts that a
child is lost forever, merely on the
wrong path and needs to be
straightened out again. Luke 15:7 "I
tell you that in the same way there
will be more rejoicing in heaven over
one sinner who repents than over
ninety-nine righteous persons who do
not need to repent. " God finds joy in
nothing more greatly than when a
sinner repents. Graham's turning away
and "cursing" of God is his sin. And
in the end, he repents. Turning back
to God, Praying for His help and
protection.
The Wife in the moment of her death is
open to what will come. She tells
Graham to "See." She means for him to
see the "Signs." The Signs are the
ones of God's existence and
providence. That He is in fact
watching over us and even in our
darkest hour when events around us
seem to be at their worst and we
despair. He is still there, and that
He allowed such things to happen for
it is apart of His greater plan. A
plan that we can not understand, nor
see.
At least this is what I go out of it.
Aliens, natural disasters, biblical
destruction didn't matter. The story
was about Graham. It was about his
falling from the Lord's side and
regaining his place again. The
daughter's leaving water everywhere
was "coincidental," the brother not
making it in the pros "coincidental."
The son having asthma is
"coincidental." All of it was
coincidental to Graham until he
realized and could "see" it fit
together. It all was supposed to
happen. And that the universe and all
its myriad of events can not be
completely random. Something or
Someone must have a hand in causing
the somethings to happen, for people
and things to be in just the right
places at just the right times.
As I said though, given my perspective
as a Christian, it is my opinion. Take
it for what you will.
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lover_person
writes:
Did anyone notice at the end of the
movie when the fight was to begin that
Mel Gibson's head was on the alien's
wrist, and Bo was on the alien's back
when she was screaming? Was it just a
digital error or did they do it to
mess with our minds? This all happens
at the time that Morgan got sprayed.
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bob
writes:
The alien
blends to its surroundings. In that
case, the Hess family members.
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trollwitchdoctor
writes:
A major point you all are missing
about the water is that the air on
earth contains water as well. There is
moisture all around us; it is not only
in oceans and rivers and underground.
So, where does tthis leave the aliens?
Would they not melt or die just by
stepping foot here?
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Whitlock
writes:
From Chris
It's simpler than that. To
summarize....
Boy had a talent for baseball
(swinging)
The mom was killed so that her last
words stuck with Graham.
Morgan had asthma so he didn't breathe
the poison.
Bo had a "thing" about water, which
meant by habit she would leave half
filled glasses everywhere. Just one of
those compulsive obsessions. (like
hovering loads.)
The last words stuck with Graham, and
he told the other son to swing away,
and as a proud sports man had his bat
there in the lounge.
The alien fell over, knocking the
water on him, killing him.
It wasn't the vet in particular that
was important as her killer. The book
store, yes, they had the book in for a
reason.
It's a all chain of stuff. No hidden
alien in the family. Take it at face
value.
The aliens can obviously withstand
some water, the same way human skin
can withstand bleach, or acid.
Except the dog attacking Bo??? stuck
on that one.
Any more?
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cudelp
writes:
I think it was a great movie - Graham
being a religious man who once
believed in fate, but since his wife
died that made him believe that there
is no outside force working out there.
But after this little experience, that
changed. His little speech about
believing - great script.. There was a
reason why Merrill once the hit
record, there was a reason why
Graham's wife died - to bring Merrill
to Graham, which in turn saved then
all. There IS an outside force working
in this movie, or in the world too.
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